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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:59 pm
by Union Pacific
Bury Council are frightened of the row of old cottages being shaken to bits I presume, and the man in charge on the railway is Malcolm Vickers.

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:46 pm
by JonnyGT
Union Pacific wrote:Bury Council are frightened of the row of old cottages being shaken to bits I presume, and the man in charge on the railway is Malcolm Vickers.
I understand that the council won’t want truck traffic to increase but only seconds away from Baron Street is the centre of Bury renovation scheme and also the building near the town hall (NHS and Premier Inn??). Loads of civil contractors are in and out of there all day. Really can’t understand this situation and I can’t see how a council can make such a statement.

I know Malcolm Vickers as I dealt with him for my company to store some of my plastic water treatment media at Baron Street. Had a few conversations but noting came of it. Shame as I was offering just over £1k a month for a few bags. Sadly a fat cat has my business now.

If Bury access is the issue can we not utilise the old Kwik Save loading depot at Rawtenstall for loading into hoppers? I know it’s a stupid way of doing it but the transport by rail only is stupid

Will the project ever happen?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:48 pm
by JonnyGT
This weekend I noticed that the old Barrel factory (opposite old timber yard) was digging up loads of earth and hardcore. Can anything / someone sort out getting this for the hole?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:05 pm
by Union Pacific
It's nothing to do with the railway, that is a private business. Eyesore though it is.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:22 pm
by E Bay
JonnyGT wrote:This weekend I noticed that the old Barrel factory (opposite old timber yard) was digging up loads of earth and hardcore. Can anything / someone sort out getting this for the hole?
Jonny - this is a commercial operation - Briggs Demolition.
If we want it, we will have to buy it :?

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:38 pm
by Eagle1711
and of course as bob johnson says we dont want to pay for it but he will find out the hard way that if you want something so bad you will have to pay for it.

this is the one thing that is holding the project back, there are loads of quarries has the railway not approached any of these and acted like a charity case to see if they could get the ball rolling?

I live near wallasey and there is a few big mounds of rumble near the local tip similar to the stuff briggs has...if only the railway could get hold of it, it would be snapped up in no time.

Its funny how if other railways want say a hole filling in then they would launch an appeal to get other people/mags to know that this is the stumbling block that is needed where as we just sit on our hands and wait for people to come to us.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:05 pm
by Union Pacific
:shock: what's 'rumble'? :shock:

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:51 pm
by Shredder
its something you get after a rough curry mate

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:08 pm
by Union Pacific
Well we don't want the hole filling up with that.

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:32 pm
by Shredder
no, it probably would be very stable :lol:

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:51 am
by asbibby
JonnyGT wrote:I see.

What needs to be done to get hold of matterial to fill the hole in question? Could rubble be not collected from that old mill that has been torn down on the way to Heywood station? (Idea!)
All the demoliition crushed brickwork from Union Mill is still there yesterday Sunday, it is all adjacent to our railway line, no problem transporting it to Baron Street if we could get hold of it.
Can someone make an enquiry?
Mr. Coward maybe.

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:47 pm
by JonnyGT
E Bay wrote:Jonny - this is a commercial operation - Briggs Demolition.
If we want it, we will have to buy it
Thought it might have been and knowing a little of the industry I bet they will charge the earth for it :lol:
asbibby wrote: All the demoliition crushed brickwork from Union Mill is still there yesterday Sunday, it is all adjacent to our railway line, no problem transporting it to Baron Street if we could get hold of it.
Can someone make an enquiry?
Mr. Coward maybe.
JCB, the 08 with ballast wagons would have it done in no time. Just permission might be hard to get.

Hope someone high in the railway get to read this and takes on the idea. Fingers crossed

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:54 pm
by Union Pacific
Which is Union Mill?

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:52 pm
by JonnyGT
I think it is the correct place.

Copy the below and paste into internet explorer

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&sou ... CAgQ8gEwAA


PS Google maps has not been update as the place is now rubble

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:51 pm
by Shredder
the problems we have of course is even hardcore is expensive these days, nobody seems to give this stuff away anymore, many companies crush it and re-market it :cry: